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This article is about content for Indie Pogo which didn't make it into the final game.

Fighters

Bart

Main article : Bart

While Bart appears as a trophy in the final game, his playable appearance remains scrapped.

Heart

Heart is a character owned by AHEARTFULOFGAMES and was originally going to be a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. He comes from the game Heart & Slash and was scrapped due to rights issues.

Joy

Joy is a character owned by alpha six productions and was originally going to be a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. She comes from the game The Joylancer: Legendary Motor Knight and was scrapped due to being from an unfinished game.

Pilgor

Pilgor is a character owned by Coffee Stain Studios and was intended to be added as a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. She comes from the game Goat Simulator and was scrapped due to never being formally pitched before the studio was bought out by Embracer Group, formally THQ Nordic AB. Although it is still possible for her to be in the game, her chances has been reduced due to this.

Rogue

Rogue is a character owned by Pixelscopic and was originally going to be a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. She comes from the game Delver's Drop and was scrapped due to being from an unfinished game.

The Marine

The Marine is a character owned by Dodge Roll and was considered as a clone for Bullet Kin, both coming from the game Enter The Gungeon. This character was scrapped due to the Trevor's dislike towards clones, believing it could open the doors to demand for more fighters like it, and being a lot of work to clone a character with a lower-play rate.

This fighter was planned to have several differences from Bullet Kin, including a unique gun loadout (though both characters could pick up guns from one another), Casey used for melees instead of Blasphemy and different side & up specials.

Mechanics

Walking

Blockman Walking

Walking was originally going to be a mechanic that allowed characters to walk across the ground. This would be done by holding the parkour button to stand and then using the control buttons to walk left and right. Characters could also jump out of walking. This new walking mechanic was first tested on Blockman. In the end however, this was replaced with the current parkour.

"First and foremost, because you have so much extra mobility, matches tend to last a lot longer, because no one's able to land hits on each other that well. With the ability to walk and run, the pacing of the matches just doesn't feel good anymore. Couple that with the fact that you now always have to hold the trigger in order to run, it kinda defeats the purpose of the autojumping and the game therefore loses its identity. Even more so, we found through play tests that your finger kinda gets tired from holding the trigger the whole time, which begs the question 'Well, should there just be a toggle?" ― Trevor, explaining why the walking mechanic was originally removed.^[1]

However, walking made a return in Patch 2.1.0.0. As part of the newly added Augments, players can equip a Heavy Metal augment which allows the character to walk on the ground. This is currently only available to Blockman, Bullet-Kin, Jack, Velocispider, and Viridian, with more characters planned in the future.

Visual Augments

These type of augments would have had no impact on gameplay, but instead give players different visual effects when roll kicking or jumping.

Character Specific

Bullet Kin

Chest Drops

The Megahand and the Heroine, two charge guns, were planned to be added to Bullet Kin's chest, but they couldn't get in due to time constraints.

Table Techs, such as Table Tech Rocket, were also considered to appear in chests, but were scrapped due to time constraints and Bullet-Kin already being a very complex character.

Moveset

For his up special, it was considered to use the Alien Engine or the Balloon Gun, but it was scrapped in favour of Bullat Wings.

For his Side Special, Bullet Kin was able to shoot forward. It was scrapped in favour of the aiming mechanic.

CommanderVideo

Paddle Aiming

Originally, CommanderVideo was able to aim his paddle in 3 directions (up, left and right), but he couldn't create beats out of it. The devs tried to make it shoot sideways, but it was too similar to Shovel Knight's Flare Rod. This feature was scrapped as it didn't fit CommanderVideo's kit.

Diogenes

Cauldron Breaking

Three sprites that have been found in the sprite sheet since patch 2.0.0.0 show Diogenes's cauldron in what appears to be three different states of damage. According to the developers, the pot was originally intended to break upon receiving too much damage. It was scrapped as they didn't want to create a new fiction of what Diogenes has beneath the pot.

Jack

Moveset

Jack's neutral special was originally his Laser+Pollen ability, which spawned sword-like lasers constantly as the button was held and dealt multihit damage. This was scrapped for balancing purposes.

Lilac

Moveset

Originally Lilac had a counter move for her neutral special, that being the Blink Dash. It was scrapped, as Trevor didn't like counter moves (as they "feel cheap/overly defensive"), but they kept the dash for her Side Special.

Shovel Knight

Shield Knight

Shield Knight was planned to fight alongside Shovel Knight, making him similar to Smash Bros' Ice Climbers. However, she was scrapped, as it didn't work very well with the limited pre-Heavy Metal movesets.

Moveset

Originally, Shovel Knight's down special was planned to be a dive, similar to Blockman's or Bullet Kin's. It was scrapped in favour of Fishing Rod.

Yolk

Magic Touch Wizard

The Magic Touch Wizard was originally planned to be a part of Yolk's kit. Ultimately he was scrapped, but during development he featured in Yolk's intro, Up Special, and Super.

Stages

Nitrome stage

The Nitrome stage was announced on 11th October, 2017 during the video "Indie Pogo Kickstarter : The Grand Finale" by Trevor Lowe:^[2]

"Rather than pick one fighter to represent all of the games, instead we're gonna create a stage that incorporates a ton of elements from the variety of Mobile and Flash games. Think of it as the Pokémon Stadium of Indie Pogo." ― Trevor Lowe

Eventually, this concept of incorporating Nitrome's games was reworked into Yolk and his moveset.

Trophies

Beta Development

Before the eventual PC / console development began, Indie Pogo was originally envisioned as a mobile game. This version of the game was also not a platform fighter, focusing instead on racing to collect the most coins. Tilting the phone would cause the character to move, while swiping and tapping the screen would be used for directional specials. However this plan was changed to PC / console due to mobile connectivity; Bluetooth hadn't developed enough to allow for the matches the game was intended for.

This concept, while created around 2012, showed the early intentions for the cameos to be featured in the game. Many of these are currently represented, planned to be or scrapped from the PC release, but also includes other characters such as Meat Boy, Alchemist (Savant), Rusty (SteamWorld), Gomez (Fez) and Lost Kid (Limbo). Many of these cameos were never pitched and only appear in mockups for testing purposes.

Miscellaneous

References

[1] ttps://youtu.be/30pU5U8oZYA?t=127

[2] ttps://youtu.be/8HJBBAkVCs4?t=2m19s

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 This article is about content for Indie Pogo which didn't make it into the final game.
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 </gallery>
-==='''Joylancer'''===
+==='''Joy'''===
-'''Joylancer''' is a character owned by alpha six productions and was originally going to be a playable fighter in ''Indie Pogo''. She comes from the game ''The Joylancer: Legendary Motor Knight'' and was scrapped due to being from an unfinished game.
+'''Joy''' is a character owned by alpha six productions and was originally going to be a playable fighter in ''Indie Pogo''. She comes from the game ''The Joylancer: Legendary Motor Knight'' and was scrapped due to being from an unfinished game.
 <gallery position="center" bordercolor="#8e8e8e" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
-JoyKS.png|Joylancer's intended character box, on the KickStarter page.
+JoyKS.png|Joy's intended character box, on the KickStarter page.
-Joylancer.png|Joylancer's fighter icon.
+Joylancer.png|Joy's fighter icon.
+</gallery>
+==='''Pilgor'''===
+'''Pilgor''' is a character owned by Coffee Stain Studios and was intended to be added as a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. She comes from the game ''Goat Simulator'' and was scrapped due to never being formally pitched before the studio was bought out by Embracer Group, formally THQ Nordic AB. Although it is still possible for her to be in the game, her chances has been reduced due to this.
+<gallery position="center" bordercolor="#323574" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
+Pilgor Indie Pogo.png|Pilgor's intended proposal sprite.
+Pilgor Icon.png|Pilgor's intended character icon.
 </gallery>
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 </gallery>
-==='''Pilgor'''===
+=== '''The Marine''' ===
-'''Pilgor''', also known as simply '''Goat''', is a character owned by Coffee Stain Studios and was intended to be added as a playable fighter in Indie Pogo. She comes from the game ''Goat Simulator'' and was scrapped due to never being formally pitched before the studio was bought out by Embracer Group, formally THQ Nordic AB. Although it is still possible for her to be in the game, her chances has been reduced due to this.
+'''The Marine''' is a character owned by Dodge Roll and was considered as a clone for Bullet Kin, both coming from the game ''Enter The Gungeon''. This character was scrapped due to the Trevor's dislike towards clones, believing it could open the doors to demand for more fighters like it, and being a lot of work to clone a character with a lower-play rate.<br />
+This fighter was planned to have several differences from Bullet Kin, including a unique gun loadout (though both characters could pick up guns from one another), Casey used for melees instead of Blasphemy and different side & up specials.
-<gallery position="center" bordercolor="#323574" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
-Pilgor Indie Pogo.png|Pilgor's intended proposal sprite.
-Pilgor Icon.png|Pilgor's intended character icon
-</gallery>
-=== '''The Marine''' ===
-'''[https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/The_Marine The Marine]''' from ''Enter The Gungeon'' was considered to be a clone of Bullet Kin, having unique guns (which Bullet Kin can pick up, and vice-versa), using Casey for his melees instead of Blasphemy, and different side and up specials. This idea didn't make it into the final game, and it is unlikely that it will. This is due to Trevor's dislike of clone characters and the character opening the door for players to request more clone characters. Bullet Kin also has a lower play-rate than other characters, therefore it'd have been "a lot of work gone into waste".
 <gallery position="center" bordercolor="#8e8e8e" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
 Marine.png|The Marine in ''Enter The Gungeon''.
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 ==Mechanics==
-==='''Walking'''===
+*'''Walking'''
 [[File:Cursed_Walking_Blockman_(2).gif|thumb|60px|Blockman Walking]]
-Walking is a scrapped mechanic that allowed characters to walk. To access it, the player needed to hold the parkour trigger in the ground to stand, and, after that, use the left stick to move. The player could also jump out of walking. It was tested on [[Blockman]], however it was replaced by [https://indie-pogo.wikia.com/wiki/Gameplay#Parkour parkour].<ref>https://youtu.be/30pU5U8oZYA?t=127</ref>
+Walking was originally going to be a mechanic that allowed characters to walk across the ground. This would be done by holding the parkour button to stand and then using the control buttons to walk left and right. Characters could also jump out of walking. This new walking mechanic was first tested on [[Blockman]]. In the end however, this was replaced with the current [https://indie-pogo.wikia.com/wiki/Gameplay#Parkour parkour].
-{{Quote|quote = First and foremost, because you have so much extra mobility, matches tend to last a lot longer, because no one's able to land hits on each other that well. With the ability to walk and run, the pacing of the matches just doesn't feel good anymore. Couple that with the fact that you now always have to hold the trigger in order to run, it kinda defeats the purpose of the autojumping and the game therefore loses its identity. Even more so, we found through play tests that your finger kinda gets tired from holding the trigger the whole time, which begs the question 'Well, should there just be a toggle?|speaker = Trevor, explaining why the walking mechanic was removed.}}
+{{Quote|quote = First and foremost, because you have so much extra mobility, matches tend to last a lot longer, because no one's able to land hits on each other that well. With the ability to walk and run, the pacing of the matches just doesn't feel good anymore. Couple that with the fact that you now always have to hold the trigger in order to run, it kinda defeats the purpose of the autojumping and the game therefore loses its identity. Even more so, we found through play tests that your finger kinda gets tired from holding the trigger the whole time, which begs the question 'Well, should there just be a toggle?|speaker = Trevor, explaining why the walking mechanic was originally removed.<ref>https://youtu.be/30pU5U8oZYA?t=127</ref>}}
-Despite all of this, the mechanic was reintroduced in [[Patch 2.1.0.0]], in the new Augments mode. Currently, only Blockman, [[Bullet Kin|Bullet-Kin]], and [[Velocispider]] can use it, though more characters are planned to be able to equip the augment at a later date.
+However, walking made a return in [[Patch 2.1.0.0]]. As part of the newly added [[Augments]], players can equip a Heavy Metal augment which allows the character to walk on the ground. This is currently only available to [[Blockman]], [[Bullet Kin|Bullet-Kin]], [[Jack]], [[Velocispider]], and [[Viridian]], with more characters planned in the future.
-=== '''Visual Augments''' ===
-These type of augments would have had no impact on gameplay, but instead give the player visual effects each time he/she roll kicked or jumped. In these sketches, we see 3 different visual augments:
+*'''Visual Augments'''
+These type of augments would have had no impact on gameplay, but instead give players different visual effects when roll kicking or jumping.
 <gallery position="center">
 Concept art 7.png|Fire Augment
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 Concept art 5.png|Explosive Augment
 </gallery>
 ==Character Specific==
 ==='''Bullet Kin'''===
+*'''Chest Drops'''
-====<u>Scrapped Guns</u>====
 The [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Megahand Megahand] and the [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Heroine Heroine], two charge guns, were planned to be added to Bullet Kin's chest, but they couldn't get in due to time constraints.
+Table Techs, such as [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Table_Tech_Rocket Table Tech Rocket], were also considered to appear in chests, but were scrapped due to time constraints and Bullet-Kin already being a very complex character.
-==== <u>Table Techs</u> ====
+*'''Moveset'''
-Different Table Techs, such as [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Table_Tech_Rocket Table Tech Rocket] were considered to appear on chests, however, due to time constraints, as well as making Bullet Kin being very complex, it was scrapped.
-====<u>Scrapped Moveset</u>====
 For his up special, it was considered to use the [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Alien_Engine Alien Engine] or the [https://enterthegungeon.gamepedia.com/Balloon_Gun Balloon Gun], but it was scrapped in favour of Bullat Wings.
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 ==='''CommanderVideo'''===
-====<u>Paddle Aiming</u>====
+*'''Paddle Aiming'''
-Originally, CommanderVideo was able to aim his paddle in 3 directions (up, left and right), but he couldn't create beats out of it, as the devs tried to make it shoot sideways, but it was too similar to Shovel Knight's Flare Rod.
+Originally, CommanderVideo was able to aim his paddle in 3 directions (up, left and right), but he couldn't create beats out of it. The devs tried to make it shoot sideways, but it was too similar to Shovel Knight's Flare Rod. This feature was scrapped as it didn't fit CommanderVideo's kit.
-This feature was scrapped as it didn't fit CommanderVideo's kit.
 ==='''Diogenes'''===
-====<u>Cauldron Breaking</u>====
+*'''Cauldron Breaking'''
 Three sprites that have been found in the sprite sheet since patch 2.0.0.0 show Diogenes's cauldron in what appears to be three different states of damage. According to the developers, the pot was originally intended to break upon receiving too much damage. It was scrapped as they didn't want to create a new fiction of what Diogenes has beneath the pot.<gallery widths="99" position="center" orientation="square">
 Pot break 1.png
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 Pot Break 3.png
 </gallery>
 ==='''Jack'''===
-====<u>Scrapped Moveset</u>====
+*'''Moveset'''
 Jack's neutral special was originally his Laser+Pollen ability, which spawned sword-like lasers constantly as the button was held and dealt multihit damage. This was scrapped for balancing purposes.
 ==='''Lilac'''===
-====<u>Scrapped Moveset</u>====
+*'''Moveset'''
+Originally Lilac had a counter move for her neutral special, that being the Blink Dash. It was scrapped, as Trevor didn't like counter moves (as they "feel cheap/overly defensive"), but they kept the dash for her Side Special.
-Originally, Lilac had a counter move for her neutral special, that being the Blink Dash. It was scrapped, as Trevor didn't like counter moves (as they "feel cheap/overly defensive"), but they kept the dash for her Side Special.
 ==='''Shovel Knight'''===
-====<u>Shield Knight Companion</u>====
+*'''Shield Knight'''
 [[File:Shield_Knight-0.png|thumb|67px]]
 [https://shovelknight.fandom.com/wiki/Shield_Knight Shield Knight] was planned to fight alongside Shovel Knight, making him similar to Smash Bros' Ice Climbers. However, she was scrapped, as it didn't work very well with the limited pre-Heavy Metal movesets.
-====<u>Scrapped Moveset</u>====
+*'''Moveset'''
 Originally, Shovel Knight's down special was planned to be a dive, similar to Blockman's or Bullet Kin's. It was scrapped in favour of Fishing Rod.<gallery orientation="none" position="center">
 Shovel scrapped.png|Unused Sprites for Shovel Knight's scrapped Down Special
 </gallery>
+=== '''Yolk''' ===
+[[File:Yolk Intro Unused.png|thumb|98x98px]]
+*'''Magic Touch Wizard'''
+The Magic Touch Wizard was originally planned to be a part of Yolk's kit. Ultimately he was scrapped, but during development he featured in Yolk's intro, Up Special, and Super.
+==Stages==
+==='''Nitrome stage'''===
+The Nitrome stage was announced on 11th October, 2017 during the video "Indie Pogo Kickstarter : The Grand Finale" by [[Trevor Lowe]]:<ref>https://youtu.be/8HJBBAkVCs4?t=2m19s</ref>
+{{Quote|quote = Rather than pick one fighter to represent all of the games, instead we're gonna create a stage that incorporates a ton of elements from the variety of Mobile and Flash games. Think of it as the [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Pok%C3%A9mon_Stadium Pokémon Stadium] of Indie Pogo.|speaker = Trevor Lowe}}
+Eventually, this concept of incorporating Nitrome's games was reworked into [[Yolk]] and his moveset.
 ==Trophies==
-This section includes either trophies that couldn't make it to the game, or old versions of pre-existing trophies.
 <gallery position="center" bordercolor="#000000" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
 Quark.png|The unused sprite for Quark, the main character for ''Kerfuffle''. The trophy was removed due to the game's cancellation.
 timmy-oldpng.png|A old version of [[Timmy]]'s trophy sprite, before Trevor updated it to include a better pose.
+</gallery>
+==Beta Development==
+[[File:beta_roster.png|261x212px|thumb|Very early mockup]]
+Before the eventual PC / console development began, Indie Pogo was originally envisioned as a mobile game. This version of the game was also not a platform fighter, focusing instead on racing to collect the most coins. Tilting the phone would cause the character to move, while swiping and tapping the screen would be used for directional specials. However this plan was changed to PC / console due to mobile connectivity; Bluetooth hadn't developed enough to allow for the matches the game was intended for.
+This concept, while created around 2012, showed the early intentions for the cameos to be featured in the game. Many of these are currently represented, planned to be or scrapped from the PC release, but also includes other characters such as Meat Boy, Alchemist (Savant), Rusty (SteamWorld), Gomez (Fez) and Lost Kid (Limbo). Many of these cameos were never pitched and only appear in mockups for testing purposes.
+<gallery position="center" bordercolor="#000000" captiontextcolor="#8e8e8e">
+beta_menu_1.png|Early menu mockup, showing multiple characters
+beta_menu_2.png|Another menu mockup, detailing [[Stardrop]]
+beta_pogo.png|Real pogo sticks were considered briefly, but were too difficult to design moves around
+beta_mockup_1.png|Battle mockup on a Shutshimi-themed stage
+beta_mockup_2.png|Battle mockup on a Stardrop-themed stage
+beta_mockup_3.png|Battle mockup on a Block World-themed stage
+beta_testing.png|Early map used for gameplay testing. Art was taken straight from Stardrop's games
 </gallery>
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 ==References==
-<references />[[Category:Betas]]
+<references />
+[[Category:Betas]]